#189: Naomi Klein, non-fiction author

In this episode Rachel and Simon speak with the non-fiction author Naomi Klein. Her debut book, "No Logo: Taking Aim at the Brand Bullies" sold more than 1m copies after its publication in 1999; her follow-up, "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" (2007), also reached the top of the New York Times bestseller charts. She has written extensively about the climate, including in books such as "This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate" and "On Fire: The (Burning) Case for a Green New Deal", and is the founding co-director of the Centre of Climate Justice at the University of British Columbia. Her latest book, "Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World", won the inaugural Women's Prize for non-fiction. We spoke to Naomi about the huge success of "No Logo", the line between journalism and activism, and "Doppelganger".