#194: Kevin Barry, novelist and short-story writer

Simon and Rachel speak to ⁠Kevin Barry⁠, a novelist and short-story writer. Kevin is the author of four novels and three story collections. His awards include the IMPAC Dublin Literary Award, the ⁠Goldsmiths Prize⁠, the Sunday Times EFG Short Story Award and the Rooney Prize for Irish Literature. His stories and essays have appeared in the ⁠New Yorker⁠, Granta and elsewhere. His novel, "⁠Night Boat to Tangier⁠", was a number-one bestseller in Ireland, was longlisted for the Booker Prize and named one of the ⁠Top Ten Books of the Year by the New York Times⁠. Kevin also works as a playwright and screenwriter. We spoke to him about forcing himself to become a novelist, writing short stories and screenplays, and about his latest book, "⁠The Heart in Winter⁠."